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'88 Runner grocery getter
03-12-2017, 10:06 AM
Post: #11
RE: '88 Runner grocery getter
(03-11-2017 05:09 PM)Dmiller Wrote:  Still focusing on purchasing a welder. The everlast 200 mig is a very reasonable price (still have to call the company), but part of me is still hoping an older miller 211 will pop up on craigslist for a much better price.

My father plans on moving down in a few years and would be bringing the 211, so this is why I am rethinking about buying a a new welder. The problem, of course, is that it has to be a dual volt welder since for the majority of the year I will be welding with 120v and those are much trickier to find used.

My gut feeling is that I will probably purchase the everlast 200 because it is a tool that will be used at work which will meet next years 2% work floor deductions.

Thoughts and opinions??

No experience with with Everlast products, but I think someone here does lol. Mine is a Hobart 210MVP, made by Miller. Its the same as the 211 except that the 211 has an infinitely variable amp control and aluminum internals while the 210 has a 7 position amp control and composite internals. It may be something to consider.

Dmiller Wrote:On another note, my goals this year was your basic armor which I would like to weld up. Front and rear bumpers and some sliders. Like I mentioned, I would really like to keep a clean and almost factory look to all of this for value purposes (hence why the tube bumpers are out). My goal is to make everything look almost seamless and natural to the runner (which may be tougher than I thought).

But beyond metal fabrication, one thing I would really like to do is lockable storage for the rear bed. I would really love to get a soft topper, so having lockable storage cubbys is almost a must. Plus it will keep everything more organized. With that said, again with keeping this a restoration project, I would like to do it in a way that flows with the vehicle and looks like it came from the factory floor.

Thoughts and opinions!?

Something like a Tuffy deck enclosure?

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Or more like drawers and compartments? I pulled out the rear heater assembly and plastic trim from the burban and plan on building lockable storage boxes in that area below the rear window. Along where the speakers are on yours. I can't seem to find any good example pictures of this online though.

(03-11-2017 07:57 PM)Dmiller Wrote:  Decided to take some measurements and throw them into my sketch program. The rear bumper started off with 2x4 tube but I knew it could not end that way. To make things look right (aka not just tube), its going to take a little bit more work. Also, it is currently set up for a 37" tire height and width wise. Down the road, I was planning on 35's or 37's so it will be ready for this when the time comes.

Also, the flip up design was already built by another guy. Because I am pulling a boat, a full swing out style hinge will not work. I have considered half swings, which is also an option, but the tire would potentially be in the way of the locking mechanism. (The half swing is still not ruled out). But I dig the flip up so I am pushing for this design.. my only concern is making it strong enough to eliminate any lateral movement and this may or may not be the reason no one continued with this style of tire carrier.

The tire is offset towards the hinge to eliminate leverage of the tires weight. I designed it in reverse, where as the tire should be on the drivers side not the passenger side, but when built, it will be corrected. I also made sure that a 37" tire would not block the tail light.

Inside the bumper is a fairlead cut out because I plan on putting a rear winch. The bumper itself and bottom cross member underneath the back of the rig will all tie into each other (and will also act as a mounting plate for the rear winch). The 1/2" D ring brackets are also in direct line of the frame rails and where the bumper will be connecting to the runner.

I also was considering some LED reverse lights of some kind... but didn't want anything too tacky. This may be something I ad or I may just keep it old school.

I like the flip up carrier idea! It seems like a more practical design than a swing out especially in crowded parking lots. What keeps the carrier locked in the upright position? That would make a nasty bump on your head should it drop closed unexpectedly.

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03-12-2017, 02:25 PM
Post: #12
RE: '88 Runner grocery getter
The MVP is a possibility as well, seems that I could purchase this locally and is within a similar price as the Everlast. I plan on calling Everlast first to see what they can do for me...

The Tuffy deck is a great idea, looks great and simple. The only problem is with the 4runners rear locking tail gate. When the window is down, the tailgate can be unlocked with the manual latch on the top of the door just like a regular car door. With a soft topper, the window would always be down.

So whatever I build will have to have its own lockable storage.

Also, after looking at different designs online I think the limbo swing up door may be ruled out. There is a lot of possibilities when the tire carrier swings out, where if it swings up, the only thing it is good for is holding a tire. So I played with my bumper a bit and came up with a new design using two spindles on each side.

Also, searching the internet didn't come up with a lot of stuff, but going on pinterest, and it is completely flooded with awesome concepts and designs, I would recommend getting a pinterest log in and using the site for overland and DIY ideas.

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03-14-2017, 09:13 PM
Post: #13
RE: '88 Runner grocery getter
Okay, on to the storage drawers for the back of the runner.

Built these to scale in my program using wood dimensions from lowes and 24" drawer rails I purchased today. Everything you see will be wrapped in .060 black aluminum skins. The front of the drawers will also be .060 that extend a half inch past the opening and will have shadow bends on all four sides. I also have RV lockable latches the same as the ones shown.

I will also be putting 3/4" wood on top of the box and carpeted with mini D rings in all 4 corners.





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03-16-2017, 05:57 PM
Post: #14
RE: '88 Runner grocery getter
Hoping to start the storage drawers this weekend. Been doing a lot of research and trying to get ideas. There is a lot of awesome stuff out there people have done, so I am trying to narrow down my main goals of the vehicle.

I think that I will route out a few slots in each drawer with a few movable dividers to help organize.

Also, I finished up the cabinet at work which is white .060 wrapped around a steel frame. The doors are skinned with .060 with a smaller frame as the skeleton with a hinge. Each door has a 1/2 inch shadow brake around the three sides. This is what I will be copying for the 4runner, accept in black and doing and braking all 4 sides.


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03-16-2017, 10:45 PM
Post: #15
RE: '88 Runner grocery getter
I love your ideas, and that's a zj in that one picture so that's sparking the interest back in my zj overlander project.
You really have some awsome ideas for this project, I'm excited to see how it turns out!!!

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03-19-2017, 10:03 AM
Post: #16
RE: '88 Runner grocery getter
That ZJ is really bad ass. Found an awesome XJ with a really nice storage package in the back as well that I didn't post up. Such great ideas.

Ran into some problems last night with the runner. It has had a small leak coming out of the gearbox that I knew about when purchasing. It was small enough where I had to fill the reservoir every 5 days, which doesn't take much fluid at all. Well I think she finally gave up on me. Drove it all of yesterday and just about every 20 minutes had to refill it. Must have blown out the seal.

Time for a new gear box.

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11-29-2017, 04:33 PM
Post: #17
RE: '88 Runner grocery getter
Replaced the box some time ago... Wasn't a huge job, but I sure do miss having a garage.

And because the truck has over 200k and these are interference engines, I wanted to replace the timing chain... so I took the truck to a local toyota shop (I knew I was at the right place when all of the yotas were from the 1960s to 1990s). I was planning on dishing around $650 for the job like quoted but when the guys broke into the motor, they said the chain was practically brand new and in good shape, so they charged me for an oil change and valve adjustment. Couldn't be happier.

Knowing the chain is good, the toyota has been my daily driver and I have already racked up a few 1000 miles.

Also, I was able to start the rear storage box. Still have a few things I would like to do to it (organizers, floor attachments, etc), but I am pleased with the way it has come out and have already started using it.






I cannot remember what the height is, but the reason why I built it higher then the back of the tail gate is due to large fluid containers. The majority of builk fluids (antifreeze, motor oil, brake fluid, etc) are the same height (which I believe was 12" tall), and since most of my fluids are in containers this high, it was obvious to me that the box had to be able to store them.

I am planning on building mini slide outs on each side of the box as well. The fuel tanks and tire are temporary till I find better locations.
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12-21-2017, 07:24 PM
Post: #18
RE: '88 Runner grocery getter
My company has given everyone the week after Christmas off for our bonus this year.

Re reading my thread, I recall saying that one of my goals was to add a front a rear bumper/tire carrier by the end of the year. So, I guess here is my chance. Ordered a 4' x 8' sheet of 3/16 steel for $120... Damn, I don't remember steel being so damn expensive.

Goal is to finish the rear bumper since it is so complex, but I would love to build a front bumper as well.

Ill start on wed, ill have a better idea of how it will go the first day.

Here is the 3rd version of the rear....

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12-23-2017, 04:12 PM
Post: #19
RE: '88 Runner grocery getter
front bumper design.

Due to the design of the Toyota, even with the thin front face of the truck, the frame actually hangs much lower than a jeep would, hence why a lot of the bumper designs for the mini toyota trucks still look thick and low.

So this is about the best I could do trying to keep a 'thin' low profile appearance. There will be a bit of pieces to make it work, but I believe it is necessary to achieve the look I am going for. I HATE bulky bumpers....

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12-25-2017, 12:15 AM
Post: #20
RE: '88 Runner grocery getter
Looks great! Make it happen.

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